Justin A. Cohn


About Ice Chips

  • Justin A. Cohn, pro sports coordinator for The Journal Gazette, has been covering the Fort Wayne Komets since 1997. His reporting includes game stories from home and away, features about the players and personalities associated with the Komets, plus coverage of issues affecting hockey at all levels. A native of Bloomfield Hills, Mich., Cohn graduated from Emory University in Atlanta. He can be reached at 260-461-8429 or by email at jcohn@jg.net.

Komets Korner

« Now I've really seen it all | Main | A second look »

April 19, 2008

Comments

Andrew

God I hope this doesn't become a distraction...

Mark

Sims didn't sound very happy at all...

Hoss

Would you be happy????

Mark

probably not...

Conley

Well after an hour and a half I am finally calmed down. One game at a time that's what its all about come playoff time. My appologies if I have offended anyone with my comments. We went through a whole heap in Muskegon last night.

aHomco

It took a stop at Denny's to chill me out! Tomorrow will be another day and another game! GO KOMETS!!!!!!!

Jerad Shaw

I would like to thank Justin for asking a couple tough question's to both parties in this. I don't think I would have the intestinal fourtatude to ask the hard questions to be honest.
Bouch is blaming being screened by an own teammate. I don't know that much about hockey, ( even though JW sour grapes have said otherwise), but sometimes that will happen. This seemed to be one of the better "teams" that gelled so well together. It's a shame that this comes to light in the playoffs is all.

Coach Sims seemed a bit upset. I have a feeling for tomorrow's game. I'm not going to say what it is because of jixing anyone, but I do have a feeling. B2'n again tomorrow, and I hope the connection is better then what some people said it was tonight in Skegy.

Jungle Monkey

So Boucher gets the blame? Yelling at a teammate in the heat of battle is one thing, punching a teammate is another. I don't care what his other job is, if he came out of retirement, or what excuse you want to use... there is no reason to take a swing at your teammate.

I suppose all the people talking about Boucher yelling at Dmen all year are on the ice? Who's to say he's not encouraging them to make better decisions?

Looks like a poorly played game. Everyone loves Reiter now.. funny. You'll be running him out of town after his first loss too..

Jerad Shaw

I worded my comment wrong. I think it is a definate plus to have 2 goaltenders and have the situation that we do. I have also read to comments where Bouch approaced Bertram and threw the first "punch." I'm not a Bertram apolgist by any streatch of the imagination, but I have seen way to many times Bouch calling out his teammates this season. His interview pretty much said the same thing. Maybe the defense should just lay back and just let him get a clear view of the puck. I'm sure he would stop everything.

I'm not saying that I want Reiter in the net every game. We are blessed with having these to GT so why not use them. I just don't understand a teammate thowing another teammate under the bus the Boucher did tonight. It should have been handled behind closed doors by both players.

That's all behind the Komets, and their fans. The focus is on game 3 tomorrow and the K's need a win. Another ugly hockey game, I'm sure, but the K's have to find a way to get up early and sustain the lead. PERIOD.

Jerad Shaw

Also, this is kinda coming from the KZOO blog, but would anyone be interested in meeting up sometime during Friday's game sometime? Meet the people that are posting on the blog, maybe to just see the people that are caring about the Komets enough to post??? I think it would be a fun, and good idea. It's up to you guys. I'm just throwing that out there.

Jerad Shaw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZamED3p7kbE&feature=related

Link to the video of Bouch and Bertram. Obviously no mic, but draw your own conclusions. I won't say my opinion cause it just gives a platform!! I've been watching way to much Politcal coverage!

Henley67250

Just got home from Muskegon. Hope everyone had a safe trip home, even though it wasn't the most pleasant of rides home...See ya'll tonight!

Tom

I also was at Muskegon tonight and if the rule is indeed the entire puck must cross the red line for it to be a goal I can honestly say it was not. I was about 40 ft. from the play looking right at it and there were no guys screening my view as I was on the opposite side of the rink as Cohn and maybe 1/2 the puck crosses the line and that is being generous...think about it if the puck didn't cross the goal line and the goal judge was jumpy on the call like I feel he was tonight they are not going to admit it when you have an idiot like Hawthorne who had no clue. I do not mind losing hockey games but to be able to honestly see it not cross the line was a joke. Immediately after the "goal" was a called a goal by the goal judge a Fury fan got up and went and gave the goal judge a back massage and a pat on the back....lol...what a joke? Also the things in the crowd tonight were a joke. They should be begging people from FW to come and spend money in their building and town instead of harassing the fans all game. I missed a goal because of all of the bs. Authorities asked the K's fans not to use expression with "suck" and "hell" during the game but played at least two songs during the game that had those same two words....2nd-They play R&RP2 and yell hey you suck etc...you get the idea...to threaten ejections of FW fans for the same stuff they were doing???? Someone in our section got called a sucker of *roosters* and so they replied with a simple "bird" and were asked to leave for a spell. There was a drunk guy spilling beer all over people in our section and another drunk guy who was kicked out at least 3 different times before they finally perminately removed the guy. Tonights game was weird not only in the game...but even worse in the crowd. (Note several times during the game I heard from the "normal and sane fans" that the Fury won't have a team next year and they really don't think there will be an IHL next yr....have you heard that up in the box too COHN?) Sorry, long post, long night...and even I was challenged to fight tonight and after several road games with no problems I am a little bit upset at this point. AHHHHH! After the game I did have a good conversation with some Fury fans afterwards which restored my faith in their fans and calmed me down. GO KOMETS!

hawthornescrewedusAGAIN

Well, another poorly officiated game in favor of Muskegon! But, isn't that to be pretty much what's expected anytime we find out that Hawthorne is the official. There were only two games tonight and Hawthorne is the best that the league could come up with? I mean, come on, that's ridiculous!!

As Justin already said, "Three goals on 5-on-3 power plays for the Fury?" Al Sims also commented that "(Those) 3 5-on-3's (made) the difference in the game..definately..we got NONE" Well, I guess at least he didn't throw out our coach on his birthday for "objecting" to poor officiating.

I'm convinced that if it wasn't for the ridiculously slanted officiating, the Komets would have definitely have won it. They outshot them over 2-1, were up 3-1, and were playing hard and had a winning game going. I could just see the frustration and drain of morale on the guys once Hawthorne started in.

Boucher/Bertram incident: Situations like that happen when the referee is an idiot and blatantly making poor calls to throw the game. Emotions start running high and everyone is getting hot/PO'd about how the game is being ran. That said, there is still no excuse for taking a swing at your own player like that though. That should have been handled behind closed doors after time to cool off. But, I don't think it would have even happened if it wasn't for Hawthorne screwing us AGAIN! There's NO reason he should still have a job in the IHL (or any league for that matter)!!

komets123

Boucher shouldn't have come after Bert complaining to him, but come on now Bert. What the heck are ya thinking??

IMO Bert needs some games off. Sorry to say it, but you don't take swings at your own goalie. It is a huge no-no to rough up the goalie for the other team.. so what is it to rough up your own??

I love the way Bert plays, and am a huge fan of his. But a certain level of professionalism is required, and Bert needs some time to regain his.

Jerad Shaw

Komets 1 for 10 on the PP. Muskegon 3 for 10 on the PP. Players have to adjust to the officiating. The know Hawthorne by now. They know how he officiates. At this point, there is noone to blame, but the Komets and their lack of adjusting to the way he calls a game. I could tell you that he is going to call a ton of penalities in the first and 2nd and then let the game be played in the third once he makes his mark. After looking at the third period box score, looks like he tried to give the games to the K's to be honest. I hate the way Hawthorne calls a game more then anyone, but at least he calls every game the same. Adjustments is the key word for tomorrow. Adjust to the way the Fury are playing, and adjust to the officiating.

ex-STH

Hawthorne is one of the main reasons that I am an ex-SeasonTicketHolder! I got tired of wasting my time and money watching him screw up games so I voted with my feet and my wallet and stayed home a lot this year. Win or lose, most games he officiates are darn near unwatchable. Having said that, the Ks are not sharp. Despite their overwhelming lead on shots on goal in both games, they are lucky that they aren't down 0-2. They are tight and pressing and I know it just states the obvious, but they need to lighten up and just play their game and stop making Reichmuth look so good.

Canuck

GOALTENDER GETS PUNCHED BY OWN DEFENSEMAN IN A GAME?!
DISGUSTING
BERTRAM NEEDS TO SIT OUT TONIGHTS GAME. There's no excuse for that. Granted I've never played professionally, nor even that good at being a hack goalie, but the GOALIE GETS TO DIRECT THE DEFENSEMEN. That goes for other sports I've played.
I've heard from someone that coaches high school hockey that Bertram was unapproachable and distant while Bertram was coaching high school. Granted the person telling me this didn't like Bertram and I don't know how Bertram will handle this behind the scenes - however I don't need to see Bertram as a Komet after these playoffs if he doesn't rethink the appropriateness of that incident.
Justin - that must have been awkward bringing up the incident with Sims and I heard Sims say not to ask him what happenned but - I'm interested in you asking Sims, and so are others I'm sure, how does a coach handle this situation with the players?
Firefighting is an honorable profession - maybe Kevin needs to return to it full time.

Jerad Shaw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZamED3p7kbE&feature=related

Video of Bouch and Bert.

mightbite

Bertram did what Durdin- Pence etc should of did ALL year.boucher always blames the D.

Centerhockeygirl9

THat is so stupid of bertram! What an idiot!!! That just makes the KOmets look bad!!!! Boucher was right get out of my way and anyways everytime bertram is in front of the the other team scores! Oh yeah and by the way who the heck punches their own goalie? He should at least know that the goalie does a lot for the team. Bertram is a showoff!!!!
If he is goin to be that way to other teamates then they should get rid of him and bring legault back in cuz bertram stinks!!!!
Thats all i gotta say!!!!
Go Komets (BUT NOT BERTRAM!)

Mrs. Mightbite

I DO NOT agree with mightbite!!! What a bobblehead!!!

Canuck

Mrs. Mightbite must be the smarter half.

K.M.

Like others have said stuff like what happened with Bertram and Boucher happens with all teams but usually its in practice where the public never sees it happen.

I agree that Bertram was in the wrong for punching Boucher, but in fairness Boucher has been doing this crap all year to his teammates and it was bound to boil over. Tyler Master did the same garbage when he played here of showing up his teammates by screaming at them in the middle of games.

I just have a hard time beleiving that every goal scored Boucher is screened yet Reiter isn't ?

I like both players and in my opinion they will get it fixed in house and nobody needs to sitout games. Both Boucher and Bertram are big pieces and if the Komets wanna win the Turner Cup we will need them both. It sucks what happened and it will be a story...just hopefully not a distraction.

GO KOMETS!!!!

K.M.

Like others have said stuff like what happened with Bertram and Boucher happens with all teams but usually its in practice where the public never sees it happen.

I agree that Bertram was in the wrong for punching Boucher, but in fairness Boucher has been doing this crap all year to his teammates and it was bound to boil over. Tyler Master did the same garbage when he played here of showing up his teammates by screaming at them in the middle of games.

I just have a hard time beleiving that every goal scored Boucher is screened yet Reiter isn't ?

I like both players and in my opinion they will get it fixed in house and nobody needs to sitout games. Both Boucher and Bertram are big pieces and if the Komets wanna win the Turner Cup we will need them both. It sucks what happened and it will be a story...just hopefully not a distraction.

GO KOMETS!!!!

Amazed Komet Fan

Whine! Whine! Whine!

"Slap Shot" FW style...teammates fight during the game, complain about the ref that only can find work in the IHL, best team in the league loses and struggles against the 4th place team

sounds like the K's are starting to believe what they have been reading and hearing "Greatest team in FW Komet History"...time to play hockey

time to wake-up and play hockey, last night's game was not a "meaningless" loss it counted

ToeBLake

What an embarassement for the K's. Bertram needs to sit in the stands for a few games..Maybe he should try fighting with someone from Muskegon he has not fought anyone since the middle of the season. While Sims can say we are "dominating" them 5 on 5 becuase we out shoot them 2-1 I got news for him we are not it is pretty even, our shots are from the outside with nobody crashing the net. We need to start punishing there D-man!!!

Charlie in Rochester Hills

The fight between Boucher and Bertram was bush league, also known as the IHL. I'll bet this does not happen in the AHL. This could very well be the thing that un-hinges the Komets. Fort Wayne deserves better, it's not like your Flint. In fact, when the wind blows just right we can smell the stench that is Flint here in Rochester Hills. Also, someone should tell Savage that they have therapy that could help his city envy issues. Let er' rip folks, I can take it as well as dish it.

ds214

All of you people need to get over it. Not one of you were on the ice to react to what was going on. Please just drop it. Both players are trying to do their jobs. It's one game and from they way the board posts are going the officiating was horrible. Look who it was. As posted before...We need to relax and play the way we have all year and keep putting shots on net.

Junior

Charlie:

Admitting that you are here to "argue" shows your purpose on these boards. Turn the computer off and go kick the dog if that's what you need to get ya going.

Charlie in Rochester Hills

With the summer travel season soon set to begin, I have a marketing slogan that might help get more people to visit Flint this summer. It is as follows: "KISS HER WHERE IT STINKS, TAKE HER TO FLINT"

Jungle Monkey

Lets see what the new kid on defense has to offer tonight. Bert needs a break to rest himself, he's obviously breaking down mentally and needs some time to rest up.

Charlie in Rochester Hills

I have no argument, it is what it is and it is bush league. My let er' rip comment was based on the fact that whenever the AHL is mentioned on here you folks go into a tizzy. I don't have a dog to kick, just some golf clubs to hit. I hope I did not offend the Generals fans, all 3 of them.

St.Chris

Shaw...like the idea of meeting other bloggers on Friday, just prompt me when you have details. Canuck...thank you for recognizing that firefighting is an honorable profession it is very appreciated. Kevin is a professional, career,union firefighter for the city of Fort Wayne...we are a full time fire dept. I understand everyone's disappointment in what took place last night, lot of bad vibe floating around on this thread, whatever side of the Bert/Bouch fence you ride. For those of you who do not know Kevin off the ice you'll find a fairly quiet,reserved person and I'm pretty sure Kevin and Nick both wish that whole thing would have played out differently. I think we can all agree it's water under the bridge and we move on.

mightbite

Wheels fall off of K's bandwagon? I hope they can put this behind them and get back on track. K's must go to the net & get rebound shots! Us bloggers could meet in parking lot on Friday for a little tailgate?

St.Chris

I was wondering the same thing mightbite...about the wheels falling off.

Junior

Good, I hope they do so the beer lines won't be as long tonight.

Jungle Monkey

The little of I have talked to Nick Boucher off the ice, he is a very friendly and approachable guy. He talks highly of Fort Wayne and our Fans. He appreciates playing here. He's also had very good things to say about his teammates.

I thought I'd throw that in since we were discussing off-ice attitudes of players.

IT'S GAME 3 FOLKS.
We need some guys to show up and pound the FURY tonight.

GO KOMETS!!!!

mightbite

Kevin Kaminski was also nice off the ice.

Homco

Well, I just got up after a LONG night of Driving to Muskegon, missing half the game because of some Jack*** in our section yelling something about armpits, losing, and driving home in a "fury" because of stupid antagonizing beer spilling fans and a bummer of a loss for the K's.

About the play. I say continue the rotation. Reiter tonight, and Boucher and Bertram should be cooled off by Wed.

Before the game my wife, (aHomco) and myself were sitting on the steps to the arena and one of the arena ushers talked to us for quite a while on his way into work. Oddly enough, he was talking about how muskegon should have never let Boucher go. he told stories of how Boucher was such a nice guy and a great addition to any team. LOL Just kind of Ironic after tonight.

He also mentioned that the Muskegon fans Call Bouchard "breadsticks" due to his breaking contract to go play for Italy in the past. Might be something interesting for someone sitting by the Fury bench to put on a sign or banner. "Good Luck Breadsticks, Go Komets"

Speaking of bench, someone by the Komets bench Please make a sign or do something to make these boys smile or laugh or something. This is fun and exciting. I think we all need a little reminder of that!

St.Chris

JM...glad you were able to cover the Boucher beat for me, I'm sure your off ice observation is correct. Good, balanced, fair coverage.

Booner

Well, i wont say much for last night! It started out good, and ended kinda ruff. Hope i didnt upset anyone last night. I have about a 1 inch fuse that is very easily set :) but over all. I have to say there were more good musky fans than bad... i still had fun despite hawthorne and a few fans. I also think havin 2 good goalies is a good thing. but, in my opinion, it is the playoffs. stick with a hot goalie! keep him in till he loses or is tired!and im not even going to comment on the scuffle last night with bert and bouch! GOOD luck K's. Show em how we recover!!! show them how a championship teams come back after that!!! see yall tonight! i promise i'll be a good boy! lol Thanks again Tom! it was a fun ride.

Hit Somebody!!!

Jungle Monkey, I made the same argument that Boucher made last night, if you remember from game one posting, that Bert is backing down way to far and running into the goalies. He has been doing it very several games now. He doesn't ever go forward. He backs down and loses sight and runs into the front of our goalies.

Is that enough to start a fight...probably not. But I find it interesting that Boucher went out and told him such and Bert reacted that quick with fists flying. I agree. Bert needs to cool off and get back to playing hockey. When is the last time he took out his frustrations on the other team? I like Bert alot. Has been a favorite of mine this season. But technique-wise, he drops backwards way too often. He needs to step up into the lane more and give the goalies a chance.

Game 3 is a new day. I hope all has been solved and guys are ready to turn on Muskegon. This would be a perfect game to drop the mitts on the opening faceoff to let the Fury know that we mean business. Maybe Bertram should be the first guy to drop them, #28 on the Fury could use a new nose job.

scoops

The goalies need to stay in their creases and keep their mouths shut. For every shot that is screened their are 10 others the teammates defend. Its hockey. Goalies don't see every shot attempted but they sure don't need to start barking about it either.
Its simple to say who needs to go, or sit, or whatever. You are not in their position. This kind of stuff happens on every team but usually not in front of the public. Both have stock in who is to blame as neither is infallible. They will work it out.
As for tonight...I hope the lockerroom is a little more togther than this place. Everyone fighting is perfect for the Fury. Piling on the situation does nothing either. Who cares if Bert was rude at Chucky Cheese last Thursday? They are all good people and will all have a bad day.

Hit Somebody!!!

I agree Scoops. Put it behind them and focus on tonight's task. That would be the Fury. Why not go out ripping tonight and take out all this CRAP on them. The Fury are not that good. We have allowed them to believe they can play with us. We need to crush that thought tonight and get it rolling again.

St.Chris

Ahhh....I feel a calm once again. Cooler minds are prevailing on here now. Cohny time to start a new thread.

Canuck

St. Chris -
My off - ice info. about Bertram is second hand. So it is worth what it is and is why I tried to choose my words carefully.
I'm fairly reserved and quiet myself and am often mistaken for unapproachable and distant. Sometimes I let things build up too long and overreact. Could be what happened yesterday.
Bertram is a talented player and I appreciate his skills. He's one of the best the Komets have in clearing people out from the front of the net and in the corners. I hope Sims moves the guys past the garbage that was last night.
That all being said - I stand behind what I said in the first post.
St. Chris - as soon as I finishing buying the rest of my equipment (we called it equipment not gear while I was playing in Canada), I hope to see you at Barrel hockey.

chuckitt

nothing wrong with a little turmoil in the locker room. worked pretty good for the bronx bombers. and charlie, you need to have your servant turn off your computer if your main goal is to come on here and cause problems. why dont you clip a few coupons and buy the team and move it to the ahl or better still, just start a team in rochester hills.

St.Chris

Canuck... Good post, I respect your opinion and I understand some of the frustrations all of us have about last night. I've never played professionally either, but I think you and I appreciate playing hockey no matter what level. We both know things happen. I agree...gear is for transmissions in cars, Let me know what you're short on I have a surplus you are welcome to have. Barrel hockey is a blast.

Shelly

The last negative thing that happened with the Komets that I can think about is when they lost to Flint 9-3 in Flint. The next night they came home and beat the Generals 9-1. The eye opener turned out not to be such a bad thing because after that loss they they started the 25 home game winning streak. From what I have seen when adversity happens they build off it. So I look forward to seeing a great game tonight! Let't Rock the Jungle! Go Komets!

The comments to this entry are closed.